The Utica Avenue subway would bring new rapid transit service to parts of Crown Heights . . Small black tile captions reading "UTICA" in white lettering on a black background run below the trim line at regular intervals. Parkchester on the 6. When would you see it converted to that? In the intermediate level of the mezzanine, the closed section of the mezzanine was blocked only by a chain-link fence. The Utica Avenue extension in particular has been proposed several times as part of the New York City Transit Authority's 1968 expansion proposals, in older pre-unification plans, and in the competing pre-unification expansion plans of the Independent Subway System (IND). With IRT you are constrained slightly but smoothing out the Rogers Junction gives you more to work with and if Utica proves more popular than New Lots then you could run some special 4 trains down there at rush hour. [3] Artwork here was made in 1996 by Jimmy James Green and is called Children's Cathedral. But whats your obsession with rerouting the 6th Ave Express to replace (J)/(M) trains? Better to have SAS Williamsburg via the 9th St storage tracks and SAS Fulton local as the obvious trunk line that needs new capacity. Viaducts where possible. Located under Eastern Parkway near Utica Avenue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it is served by the 4 train at all times and the 3 train at all times except late nights. Climbing the ramp to the entrance level reveals more windows and doors These doors provide access to the disused portion of the upper level mezzanine, which has steps leading to the disused portion of the intermediate level mezzanine (which in turn leads directly to the unfinished station). Abandoned Jerome Post Office (Jerome) This mile-high town in the Black Hills of Yavapai County was once a thriving mining community where rich stores of copper, gold and silver ore were discovered in the late 19 th century. Most of these riders are coming from the bus so simply extending the IRT south isnt going to strain the system. So thats what the future holds: deep tunnels and expensive stations. I was talking with someone at the MTA and they mentioned that the planners were playing with the idea of building the relay along side the Bay Ridge because there was more space/cheaper than extending a tunnel south. [23], The station's full-time exit is at the east end (railroad south) of the platforms. and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. Even the New Lots branch doesnt have a third track and you could argue it needs one more than this. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius And normal service would still be able to run. Like Court Square-Court Square awkward? Another weekend or overnight wont kill us! Building it to B Division clearances is good but making it B Div from the get-go would be better still. Keep in mind that they wouldnt remove the existing switches so that trains from Brooklyn College could still reverse at Franklin and access New Lots or Utica. The MTA studied [PDF] rebuilding this junction in 2009 and came up with two plans. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. Noise complaints, and B46 would have to be detoured. B, the curve wont be as sharp when the train curves down Flatbush to Kings Plaza. Maybe place one of the Ls tracks in the cut and the other over it at street level? Between Fulton St and Eastern Parkway the crest of the ridge which runs along Long Island rises 52 feet. Jamaica Center would probably be a notch or two higher if it had been designed as terminal and could handle all E train runs. It lets light through the middle This would provide more flexibility, even though all the lines that would be connected have transfers to each other at Fulton Street in Manhattan. Located at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street in BedfordStuyvesant, Brooklyn, it is served by the A train at all times and the C train at all times except late nights. Today, police released a photo of the suspect, who is still at large. Like on the Jamaica el. They will be hardened to survive skyscrapers falling on them and to survive flooding from the next superstorm. hunting lodge motif with crossbeams. It looks to be about two miles long. Just an idea! The closest stations to Utica Avenue are: Utica Av/Beverly Rd is 115 yards away, 2 min walk. In California money itd be about 2. Eastern Py Utica Av. On narrow right of way, place one track at ground level and the other above. Contract 2 extended the original line from City Hall in Manhattan to Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. And this angle within the station level might be improved if it were to be reworked for two tracks instead of four with no fresh excavation needed. Then a tunnel would have to be built from Fulton to Eastern Pkwy, where the tunnel would have to be built directly under the 3/4, then a steep incline from Eastern Pkwy to Empire Blvd, so a portal could be built for the elevated line to Kings Plaza. North of Fulton theres a park for it to curve through, similar to your design for the Second Ave. The station spacing was done to keep costs down. The upper level at Utica Ave station on the Fulton Line would be used but only half of the existing structure would be needed since the modern line would be two tracks. Outside fare control, there is a token booth and two street stairs, each going to either western corners of Utica Avenue and Fulton Street. While this would leave said train with two terminals, Far Rockaway and Ozone Park, this would leave said train heavily congested, because most passengers want to go from Midtown to East New York or The Rockaways, not Midtown to Kings Plaza. And thats a jump I dont think we could ever make. The Crown Heights-Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. A new station would therefore have to be built below the existing 3/4 Utica Ave station before continuing south. This final station is worth considering because even though half the catchment area is parkland and the Mill Basin canal the station would serve the popular Kings Plaza Mall and there is space for a modern bus terminal for better service around southeastern Brooklyn and to the Rockaways. Merchant groups arent going to sue you for driving their business away. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. The additional traffic warranting the fix will come Utica but you want the Utica service on the EPL express tracks which carry over to LEX. So heres my workup for a design toolkit of el popularizing methods: 1. In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. Two narrow staircases and one elevator connect both platforms to a small upper level mezzanine that has two public restrooms (one for men and the other for women) and leads to a bank of turnstiles. Located at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, it is served by the A train at all times and the C train at all times except late nights. The junction is built awkwardly where the tunnels are twisting in such a way to become bi-level. The majority, 27, go to the Lexington Ave. services and with a few additional 4 trains that terminate after downtown Brooklyn the LEX express tracks are totally maxed out. Given the upfront costs of building it that seems like a waste (yes, 2nd Ave only hits that with the Q but it is at least designed to add the T later on). However, if such a public-private partnership could be established and developers enlisted to build the stations then a couple more could be added. But for Brooklyn, maybe 4? Despite his influence as Senate Majority Leader, the Utica Avenue subway may never leave the station. NEW YORK, NY - Police are seeking a man who allegedly exposed himself and performed a 'lewd act' in the presence of a 21-year-old female subway passenger. The problem here is between these two streets one lane will have to be teared up and bus stops will have to be relocated and detoured, which messes up a lot of commuters daily travel. As per your proposal. More complicated than it needs to be. Half a political lifetime ago, Bill de Blasio seemed interested in extending transit to under-served neighborhoods on his own. Stations are going to be more expensive no matter what because so much more is expected of them now. The Fulton route would have a bottleneck closer in at the crossings around Hoyt-Schermerhorn. Lets see how we might mitigate the new round of issues you brought up. Subway to Williamsburg Bridge proposal.. February 10, 2019 12:27pm Mark Mellone A woman was in critical condition after she ended up under a train at the Utica Avenue subway early Sunday morning, cops said. The ascending tunnel grade would be about 1.4% and the descending 3.3%, both reasonable. Yet youd have it built to B division clearances. In the Bronx the Grand Concourse Subway was designed to at least compete with the Jerome Ave elevated if not eventually replace it and in Brooklyn the Fulton St Subway was built to replace the Fulton El out to Queens with provisions built to allow a connection with the Jamaica Ave elevated. Now we reach Utica Ave. Go for a It will extend easterly from Buffalo avenue and Eastern parkway via East 98th street and Livonia avenue to New Lots avenue. The I-beams and other steel work along the track walls are painted in dark blue. 4. As for the bus Im sure it will go back to being local but if the demand is there for SBS (especially thru Bed Stuy) theres nothing stopping it from remaining. Also the train that stays down Fulton past Utica would now have 4 terminals, Euclid Ave, Ozone Park, and The Rockaways. why did you completely destroy the jamaica line, cant we just make a 3/4 line extension? ; Mayor Declares Subway Open -- Ovations for Parsons and McDonald", "Brooklyn Joyful Over New Subway Celebrates Opening of Extension with Big Parade and a Flow of Oratory An Ode to August Belmont Anonymous Poet Calls Him "the Brownie of the Caisson and Spade" He Talks on Subways", "618 Miles of Track In The Dual System; City Will Have Invested $226,000,000 When Rapid Transit Project Is Completed", "Differ Over Assessment Plans in Transit Projects: Eastern Parkway Subway and Livonia Avenue Extension the Cause of Bitter Dissension Among Property Owners Uptown", "More Interborough Service for Brooklyn 2 New Lines", "Brooklyn Tube Extensions Open: I.R.T. Got to be local? I do like the general arc of this post, although there is one bit I find a bit questionable; > Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Finnaly, the A/C Utica Av station is directly under Utica Av. There was a gas station, a gift shop, and Valentine's diner in the post. This seems right as Fulton intersects cross-streets at that angle. Awkward transfer? Also, Utica Av(or Malcolm X Blvd because a BMT Line is past Fulton St)becomes smaller past Fulton St, so instead of one lane being ripped up, a whole street would be ripped up, causing the B46 to be detoured north of Fulton St. An elevated line would be a bad idea too, because north of Fulton St is just 2-story Pre-War homes, and the rooftops are around the same height as the tracks. If we build to IND station size (while making easily-removable platforms extensions that allow the platforms to be disabled accessible to IRT trains) wouldnt that allow the subway to easily expand capacity once they find the money to make an IND connection or just convert the IRT to the IND gauge? Excellent nonetheless. For a first phase, I could see going only as far as Clarendon Road and the following trackage. Past Clarendon Rd the line would split with two tracks peeling east to a new yard facility built along the LIRR Bay Ridge line (requiring land taking). 7. Well, thats essentially what IRT rolling stock is; its 3/4 of full size. Charlestown USA Outlet Mall (Utica) This old, abandoned, former mill site was once one of the first shopping centers to locate in the Mohawk Valley. So that means that you are going to build a trunk line that is supposed to take pressure off the L that can only run 10-12tph. Passangers want a train for the East and West Sides.By switching the 3 and 5 youre forcing passangers to make a crossover at Franklin when they could easily just have a one seat ride from Utica or Flatbush Av. We have a new formula for success: were going to aim for an average team height of 5 3. In IND reports it was proposed to have the line remain as a subway until Ave J where it would ascend to the surface and run elevated, originally to Sheepshead Bay, then later a more simplified route down Flatbush Ave to Floyd Bennett Field. On the opposite side, from Eastern Parkway to Empire Blvd, the slope descends 66 feet. Crescent sections of the Jamaica line, clearing most but not all of the messy Granted it eventually meets up with all nine of those services, just not in the big pile-up. That leaves the Broadway portion N,R all times except late nights, W weekdays only, 5 all times except late nights,6. By the early 1920s, its population had swelled to more than 10,000. Run it through there to the Culver line where it can be the additional service that justifies reopening the express level. Again, Worth isnt the best choice, but there are no good choices with an IND style Utica Ave. Not bad. Looking into the window reveals a cinder-block wall that were erected to prevent glimpses into the closed portion of the intermediate level mezzanine. We dont need to tear down the EL. You could replace Lafayette Ave with a new station that joins the fray and then shares track with the R. All tunnels built after the original subway were built to B Division standards. Hidden behind a tall chain-link fence and gate is a tunnel that's been virtually untouched since it was built in the 1980s. And another commenter hit upon phasing. Barring a brand new line paralleling the EPL and Fulton, which wouldnt make sense as long as capacity can still be raised on those lines, the Fulton Street line looks like the only way to ever realize that greater capacity. But can a three way switch be built between Nostrand, President, and Franklin? I also think that building Utica would take some ridership away form Nostrand (those whom transfer via bus) so we should focus on Utica and then see what Nostrand looks like. want to either go to Midtown West or Midtown East. Since youll be maxing out both midtown IRT express lines, New Lots and Utica combined will always have to equal Nostrand. Looking at Census data based on commuting patterns of riders coming from the two zip codes along Utica Ave the primary destination for most riders is downtown Brooklyn with Midtown West second. This Fascinating Abandoned Train Station In Arizona Is A True Piece Of History. on Jamaica Ave to burrow the Broadway El into Fulton Lines station. 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Knowing the reality of MTA construction I would argue that the second plan is the preferable option. Planning may have actually begun. The biggest issue I have with you routings is that it ignores the changes that need to happen at Rogers Junction. So feeding more traffic into LEX which is so crowded while it actually misses the work destinations for most of these new riders might not be the best way to go. Lets get it built! The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. The Manhattan-bound platform has its metalwork painted in golden yellow and the tiles beneath the trim line in dark blue. This also makes me question realigning existing radial services into SAS. Weekends the 3 runs in Bkyln so it can serve New Lots as usual on weekends. Renovations also added new old-fashioned light fixtures with modern sodium-vapor lamps in them, which are suspended on long rods from the high, vaulted ceilings. From a strictly design point of view there are two main reasons that Utica has never gotten off the drawing boards. subways or open cut sections. SAS-Grand Central future awkward? Thank you. A BMT/IND line would cost more because its farther away, meaning more track mileage and a bigger cost, possibly raising the Metrocard fare to $3.00 for one ride. Connecting the currently planned SAS to Fultons local tracks involves building zero junctions and minimal interlining. The two street staircases lead out to the two malls on either side of the main road of Eastern Parkway on the west side of Schenectady Avenue. Place station house under tracks in median. F,L,M all times except late nights, 1,2. That has what, a current limitation of 26 tph? 57 is also proposed at Utica avenue from Eastern parkway to Flatbush avenue. Abandoned Stations List; . [22] This is the easternmost underground and four-track subway station on the Eastern Parkway Line; to the east (railroad south) of here, the local tracks rises and become the IRT New Lots Line, while the express tracks end at bumper blocks just under Ralph Avenue. And this is exactly what you or I would do in their shoes. The only I like the basic idea. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. There is a very good argument to be made that building the Worth St-Williamsburg section would alleviate traffic on the L train and serve a growing jobs center around Hudson Sq in lower Manhattan. The first is building a complicated junction that lets you send trains anywhere, which I think is what you are suggesting. Just skip it. The Culver Viaduct is at maximum 90 feet wide requiring it take up half the block (Brooklyn blocks like these are 200 feet wide). Taking this one step further this also supposes that, as the Worth St Line was to serve a similar catchment area as the BMT Centre Street Line (J train) that the new subways through the Lower East Side would replace the Centre St Line, thus leaving it up for abandonment (if this seems too preposterous keep in mind that half of this line is already, for all intents and purposes, abandoned). Then you can continue trains on into Brooklyn. Use upside down flying buttresses (floating buttresses?). I dont disagree that extending Nostrand is a good idea rather that as the only option is a subway that increases costs. Would it be possible to connect the Utica Avenue like with the Fulton Street line? Meaning that in order for a IND to run down Utica Av, Utica Av would have to be destroyed and rebuilt around the same area of the 3/4 station. [18], On November 22, 1920, the first portion of the IRT New Lots Line opened between Utica Avenue and Junius Street opened on November 22, 1920, with shuttle trains operating over this route. A, closer station spacing, only holds against full-length express trains. Perhaps you are discounting the Fulton St. For example, why build a Lafayette Av branch off of Crosstown when instead a cheap connection between the (G)/(J)/(M) could be built at Broadway. Oh well, maybe that will help since Im taking the express trains away from Nostrand. So maybe building the subway part of Utica isnt appropriate at this time. Could be Im missing an important element here. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. South 4 St Passenger service: Never completed. 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Anyway: I think that lots of expansions where there is no ROW to just place cars on, instead could be put into service as light rail (granted there are no obstacles like narrow roads and triggered politicians who cause everything to stop working) could be a nice supplement to the subway (free transfers too!) Adding another train to Queens Blvd is a problem. Maybe that money would deliver more bang for the buck if applied here. Unusually, there are two mezzanine levels; the upper mezzanine level was closed off after a 1995 renovation, and the lower mezzanine level is actually the platform level of the unbuilt Utica Avenue line. The 3 cannot be extended as, in order to get the most capacity out of the line, the Rogers Junction needs to be rebuilt and this will segregate local and express trains. Even 2nd Ave had to take a few buildings for ventilation plants. The elevated structure would be built in such a way that future buildings would be built around and above the line. MTA. The Utica Avenue subway station in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. BBGUN63. Your 3/4 routing doesnt work anymore. And D, when the line is being built, less lanes will have to be teared up. Existing abandoned portions: Part of a station for 2 tracks and two side platforms. Many will overload the (N) train as a result. But that still requires 2nd Ave to be built first. Going further the stations could even be built by private developers who would get a height bonus for building the station. Furthermore, the neighborhoods in northern Brooklyn through which the first part of the line would run are already served by existing subways. Contents 1 History 2 Station layout 2.1 Unfinished station 2.2 Exits In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. Then Utica can fulfill both roles but as of now the only important section is south of Eastern Parkway. 8. The Flushing Line viaduct cleans up real nice If so, it could be served by alternate runs of the E or as a second express provided a suitable terminal could be found. Might fit in with narrow streets with tall buildings? As part of the NYS Public Service Commission report in 1912 on new lines the Commission recommended a 4 track 14th St Subway with branches through Williamsburg. I disagree that people can just simply take a bus, but extending the Nostrand Av line south is needed. The Queens Boulevard Express turns out 15 TPH each on its two services, and if anything DeKalb is the major limitation here; at least with Sixth Avenue its not the biggest deal since the merges on both ends of CPW also limit capacity. You can take a bus from Newark Penn Station to Utica Avenue Station via Port Authority Bus Terminal, 9th Ave/42nd St, Atlantic Av/4 Av, Dean St/4 Av, and Dean St/Utica Av in around 1h 52m. Construction commenced on Contract 2 on March 4, 1903. B46 Utica and Eastern Parkway. It has to go BWY7 which means local tracks in Brooklyn. The Manhattan plans remained the same, but the line east from South 4th Street would continue on only to Marine Park via Utica Ave. It will cost less. It was first constructed as the Eighth Avenue Line in Manhattan in 1932.. One of three rail networks that became part of the . 14 St. W 14 St and 7th Ave, W 13 St and 7th Ave, W 12 St and 7th Ave. Two island platforms. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. [15] The underground portion of the line became known as the Eastern Parkway Line, or Route 12, while the elevated portion became known as the New Lots Line. [11]:194[7], On March 19, 1913, New York City, the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company, and the IRT reached an agreement, known as the Dual Contracts, to drastically expand subway service across New York City. Between this station and Ralph Avenue, there is a fifth track between the express tracks, which could be used for storage or turning trains, although it is not normally used. In May 2014, MTA installed three elevators: one near the intersection of Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, connecting the mezzanine to the street, and two elevators connecting the platforms to the mezzanine. Now we dont want that, do we? The subway itself would run straight down Utica Ave with potential stations at Empire Blvd, Linden Blvd-Church Ave and Clarendon Rd. Diamond crossover tracks exist west (railroad north) of the station for northbound trains and east for southbound trains. Flatbush Ave is extra wide along this section and the median would be used to create a safer traffic pattern. There is an active tower at the south end of the platform while a closed one exists on the east of the lower level. Oh yeah. 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